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Blog entry by Austin DenHerder posted 03-31-2012 03:51 AM 3143 reads 0 times favorited 14 comments Add to Favorites Watch

Here is what I’m looking at and need some help one choosing which one is better to buy! PLEASE HELP! What one is better???

#1
Powermatic Vortex Cone Dust Collector, 1.75HP 1PH 115/230V, 2-Micron Canister Kit, Model PM1300TX-CK

#2
Jet Vortex Cone Dust Collector, 1.5HP 1PH 115/230V, 2-Micron Canister Kit, Model DC-1100VX-CK

There is not much diference in price as I can see at this point!

The powermatic seems tobe biult a bit better than the Jet and has more chip capacity than the Jet. here are there stats:

POWERMATIC :

Model Number: 1791079K
Overall Dimensions: 37” x 29” x 72”
Height: 30”
Width: 23”
Length: 45”
Net Weight: 154 lbs
Sound Rating: 75-90 dB
1-Hose Connection Diameter: 6”
2-Hoses Connection Diameter: 4”
Bag Diameter: 20”
Filter Bag/Canister Length: 26”
Collection Bag Capacity: 10 cubic foot
Collection Bag Length: 30”
Air Flow 6" 1,064 cu.ft/min
Static Pressure: 11.31 inch of water
Particle Size (Micron): 98% of 2
Micron particles: 86% of 1 micron particles
Velocity
6”: 5,374 foot per minute
Air Inlet: (1) at 6” or (2) at 4”
Impeller Diameter: 12”
Impeller Fins: 6
Impeller Material: Steel
Separator Tank Diameter: 20”
Separator Tank Height: 10”
Motor Power: 1-3/4 HP
Motor Phase: 1 Ph
Motor Voltage: 115/230V
Prewired Voltage: 115V
Motor Current: 15/7.5A

AND
JET:

Model Number: DC-1100VX-CK
Overall Dimensions: 37” x 22.5” x 18”
Height: 18”
Width: 22.5”
Length: 37”
Net Weight: 159 lbs
Gross Weight: 172 lbs
Sound Rating: 70-80 dB
1-Hose Connection Diameter: 6”
2-Hoses Connection Diameter: 4”
Bag Diameter: 20”
Filter Bag/Canister Length: 25”
Collection Bag Capacity: 5.3 cubic foot
Collection Bag Length: 29”
Air Flow 4": 1,100 cu.ft/min
Static Pressure: 10-1/2 inch of water
Particle Size (Micron): 98% of 2 micron particles
Velocity
4”: 12,571 foot per minute
Air Inlet: (1) at 6” or (2) at 4”
Impeller Diameter: 11”
Impeller Material: Steel
Separator Tank Diameter: 20”
Separator Tank Height: 10”
Motor Power: 1-1/2 HP
Motor Phase: 1 Ph
Motor Voltage: 115/230V
Prewired Voltage: 115V
Motor Current: 11/5.5A

Thank you to all out there willing to help me make a decision on this… What is rated higher??

-- Austin



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Austin DenHerder

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#1 posted 03-31-2012 04:15 AM

The Jet seems to be heavier than the powermatic ? and the air flow diference ? the Jet has more it looks like?

-- Austin

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oldnovice

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#2 posted 03-31-2012 05:48 AM

Austin,

I checked on Amazon because they always have customer reviews. Unfortunately, the Powermatic has no reviews and i could not find any customer reviews. It is possible that it is too new or they haven’t sold any!

The reviews of the Jet are on Amazon are very good!

Hans

-- "I never met a board I didn't like!"

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Sawdust4Blood

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#3 posted 03-31-2012 06:02 AM

I own the Onyx edition of the PM. I had the chance to see both the Onyx PM, this PM, and the Jet side by side. The PMs both come with remote controls and the Jet didn’t. I liked the solid air duct between the motor and collection unit rather than the hose. There were also a few very minor improvements that you expect to see from a higher end unit (things like including control handles on the side of the body for pushing/pulling the machine around the shop.) Maybe because of the rigidity added by the solid air duct, the PMs both just felt more solid.

As you said, there wasn’t a great deal of difference in the price between the two and the performance specs were almost identical (kinda like a Chevy or GMC truck in my opinion). What swayed me in the end was the remote and that the Onyx was on special so they through in a bunch of extra bags and other accessories.

-- Greg, Severn MD

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Austin DenHerder

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#4 posted 03-31-2012 06:14 AM

Onyx PM? is that different than the reg. PM? and are they more $ does it have the Vortex?

-- Austin

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Sawdust4Blood

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#5 posted 03-31-2012 06:23 AM

Powermaster did a number of anniversary edition tools in black called Onyx edition. I don’t think there was any difference in the tools other than color but most came packaged with extra goodies (i.e. the bandsaw came packaged with the riser block, etc). The Onyx edition dust collector does have the vortex cone and that thing is sweet. I dimensioned about 20 bdft of lumber last week (enough to fill the bag with jointer/planer shaving and when I turned the filter cleaner handle after, almost nothing fell from the filter because the cone had kept it all in the bag.

-- Greg, Severn MD

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Austin DenHerder

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#6 posted 03-31-2012 01:46 PM

Thank you Greg! Good to know and What do you mean by remote it sounds like it just shuts off after 90 minutes ?

-- Austin

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Ken90712

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#7 posted 03-31-2012 02:42 PM

Have to compared these to Penn Industries dust collectors? I got this one and love it. http://www.pennstateind.com/store/DC2000B.html.

I have had it a cpl yrs and never a problem.

I had thought abot getting this one but didnt want to spend the extra money. My machine is outside the shop if it was in the shop I would have gotten this one perhaps.

http://www.pennstateind.com/store/TEMP2PCX.html

Good luck look fwd to hearing what you decide.

-- Ken, "Everyday above ground is a good day!"

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#8 posted 03-31-2012 02:49 PM

You’ll get about the same thing from Grizlly for a better price

-- Don, Royersford, PA

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Austin DenHerder

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#9 posted 03-31-2012 02:55 PM

Ken thank you! looked at the two sites you listed and need to look more into these….thank you..

-- Austin

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Austin DenHerder

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#10 posted 03-31-2012 02:57 PM

I’ve herd that Grizzly are poor quality? will they last and are they fine tuned? or will I haft to do lots of adjusting once I get one?
Thank you Ken…

-- Austin

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Sawdust4Blood

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#11 posted 03-31-2012 04:19 PM

Austin,
The remote is an infrared remote control allowing you to turn it on or off from across the room. It also has a variable timer option allowing you to set (either on the base unit or with the remote) to run for a period of time before it shuts itself off.

-- Greg, Severn MD

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AJswoodshop

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#12 posted 04-01-2012 01:53 AM

Grizzly models are not as heavy duty. If I had to pick one of the 2 I would pick the jet vortex. Way more value for the 650$ More heavy duty powermatics are pricey. Have you looked at the onedia air systems?

AJ

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doncutlip

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#13 posted 04-01-2012 01:59 AM

I’ve had my grizzly DC for over a year now and have no complaints. In fact, I have a TS, bandsaw and drill press from griz. All assembled easily and were pretty spot-on out of the box. But I can’t really speak to reliability. They do seem pretty well made. In any case, you could not go wrong with PM or Jet – they just cost more (sometimes a LOT more) and is it worth it. In my case no; I’m just a hobbyist.

-- Don, Royersford, PA

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Sawdust4Blood

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#14 posted 04-01-2012 02:26 AM

I don’t know that I agree there is a significant value difference between Jet and PM machines since they are both owned by WMH Tools. When I bought mine, the PM was about $100 more and I wrote that off to adding the remote and the other little niceties you got with PM. I think that you’d have to cross brands before you’re likely to see a real value difference. It all depends on what features you value and what you’re willing to pay in order to get them. For some people that means paying for a PM while others would rather buy a HF and use a thein separator in lieu of the vortex cone (an option that’s probably at least $400 cheaper) and then just replace the HF if/when it gives up the ghost. The only right answer is the one that’s right for you.

-- Greg, Severn MD

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